poof (on_a_hill) wrote in abortion411,
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Statement of intent

Abortion411: Why?

Two reasons.
1) Specifically, to address the communities abortioninfo and the deceptively titled pregnancychoice. These communities are run by uncaring, mean spirited women WITH AN AGENDA. Don't be fooled by the pretty words on the user infos......don't be decieved. Look into the communities and words of the women who run these communities. The biggest glaring issue is that they make no bones about how militantly pro-choice they are. They are, in fact, extremists. Look at their communities, and then look INTO the communities. Look at the things they feel comfortable saying about people. They actively and maliciously attack and harass anyone who dares identify as pro-life.
Think about it......they have such issues, how can they be unbiased, and their user info says? It's just not possible and they cannot admit that.
Also, how can we promote equality for women if we automatically discount a certain women just because we don't like one thing they think? If you go to their community when you are considering abortion, as the community info says it's there for, how on earth can you feel safe considering keeping the baby, seeing what you'll have to deal with if you dare to say anything other than the extremist pro-choice mantras?

I want people to feel safe talking about abortion. And I honestly want REAL and TRUTHFUL information put out there.

2) In general, it's a good idea. But, quite honestly, the communities that the militants have created scare me. They run every single abortion community on LJ practically and having only one voice cannot be healthy. There should be as much information out there as we can get. We already have a HUGE pro-choice bias on LJ........lets try to mellow it out a bit.

I would like to create a community for discussion on safer sex, the issues the surround abortion, and the "after" issues of pregnancy, wether you abort or keep it. I would like to invite you in if you've had an abortion, if your friend had an abortion, if you kept a child, adopted out a child, or just are sexually active and want to talk about your "what ifs".

I am pro-life, in theory, mainly because I cannot stand for what militant pro-choicers stand for. I believe that, right now, abortion is a necessary evil, that we need to work to reduce it, and that the way to do that is through adressing the great social problems that contribute to it. I had an abortion when I was 17, I then had another unplanned pregnancy at 22, while I was in the middle of college, and spent the next several years working my ass through college, with my daughter, as a single parent on welfare. I am now married, have my degree, and have another child that I planned. While I was single, I volunteered at a crisis pregnancy center and was a volunteer doula and caseworker and held many hands through births AND abortions. I'm politically liberal/Democrat and most people in *real* life don't know I'm pro-life. :)

I look forward to growing this community. If you know of women who might be interested, send them our way. If you know of women who've been lied to by ANY community on LJ about this issue, tell them we're here.

This community will NOT be for debate and we will NOT allow extremists views of any kind. This is meant to be a safe space for discussion and exchange of information, not a debate platform for your views or a fighting ground for your personal grudges.

I currently am seeking a pro-choice mod. katiedarling is our "middle ground" mod. All moderation will issues will be discussed between at least two of the mods before any action is taken.

Thanks.......lets get information out there!
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Actually, from experience, most women who seek help on abortioninfo have already decided to have abortions and have specific questions or problems that they'd like to discuss with the members. There's no agenda, nor is one necessary, since generally the decision has already been made. Also, several times, women who are unsure, or who are being pressured by outside sources to abort when they don't want to, have asked questions, and no one has EVER advised them to abort regardless of how they feel.

The moderators there are pro-choice, and that includes all choices, from abortion to keeping the child to adoption.
Everyones experience is different and your statement is opinion, not fact. I disagree that they are accepting of ALL choices, and that's where you and I will probably have to agree to disagree. This post isn't mean to spawn all sorts of apologists for abortioninfo showing up here. My statements stand. I hope you have come here to contribute and to make a positive difference, not to cause drama.
Can you please support your statement that "they are [not] accepting of ALL choices"? This has been asked many times before, and I find it really frustrating that you continually refuse to say anything except "it's run by extremists." Please, for heaven's sake, at least give us SOME legitimate evidence. I'm trying to ask politely, because I seriously want to know where you have gotten this impression, so please don't think I'm being hostile.
This is not the place for debate or drama, nor is it the space for this question. As I said to the other poster, we will have to agree to disagree on this issue, in this space, for the sake of maintaining a safe space. If you aren't willing to let this issue drop here, you need to let me know. There are plenty of other spaces in which this is currently being discussed. Thanks.
Can you respond to this question in my personal journal then? I've seen it asked many times other places and I haven't seen you give an adequate response, which is why I brought it up here. I invite you into my journal (the public post at the top) to answer my question. Thank you.
done. :)
I'm not causing drama, I'm correcting your vast and unsupported assumption that abortioninfo is somehow not accepting of all choices related to pregnancy.
Again, that's your opinion, it's not fact.
But if it weren't unethical, I could go into past entries and show you exchanges that support what I say; that none of the "extremists" have ever encouraged a woman to have an abortion, or even promoted abortion to the exclusion of other alternatives. You can't. There is nothing you can bring to the table to support *your* opinion.
There is plenty I could "bring to the table", however this isn't the place and as I have this this isn't the place for this debate, which is clearly where it is headed. I'm asking to restrain yourself and keep this discussion in an appropriate place or please leave the community.

Thanks.
Also, how can we promote equality for women if we automatically discount a certain women just because we don't like one thing they think? If you go to their community when you are considering abortion, as the community info says it's there for, how on earth can you feel safe considering keeping the baby, seeing what you'll have to deal with if you dare to say anything other than the extremist pro-choice mantras?

What do you mean, "how can they feel safe, seeing what they'll have to deal with?"

I'm a pro-choice teen mom, and I have never felt any pressure to have an abortion. Pro-choice means pro-choice, we support whatever choice the woman makes about her pregnancy.
I'm glad you never felt any pressure. However, I do not agree that those communities are supportive of all choices. If that's your opinion, that's ok......however that discussion isn't really what this community is for.